Questions after this beta weekend - Guild Wars Forums

gkanks · Feb 26, 2005, 03:03 PM // 15:03

I play MMOs with my daughter and my niece so Guildwars is very attractive from a cost perspective (we just gave up EQ because it???s no longer worth $45 a month). So for the most part I???m focused on the PvE content. My big concern is that with a level cap of 20 and the ability to get to level 5 in half a day in the new newbie area the game will have limited long term appeal. I know that the design team would really like to see more player focus on the PvP and the GvG but most MMOs have shown the PvE content and having lots to achieve is what players are interested in. I guess my question is; is this a legitimate concern?

Second question; We played only in the new newbie area this weekend and the game no longer penalized us dying but reset us instead, is this behavior just in this zone? I really liked the old system of having a negative for each time that you die and rez, it was not a drastic punishment but it made you really work to keep the party alive. Plus it made some areas a real challenge to complete and didn???t reduce the fun factor.

JP

Lunarhound · Feb 26, 2005, 03:19 PM // 15:19

A lot of people who want to focus on PvE have expressed concern over the low level cap and the speed at which it's possible to gain levels, but I really don't think there's any need to be alarmed.

The focus of the PvE in Guild Wars is not supposed to be in constantly "grinding" for levels. The focus is in completing new missions (which will constantly be added, in the free updates as well as future chapters), playing through the main storyline and continuing to improve your character by gaining new skills. Even once you've reached level 20, you'll still be able to continue ganing experience, which will earn you skill points, which you can use to buy new skills of which there will be hundreds, with more being added all the time.

I think it's really unfortunate that so many people seem to think that the only possible way to continue having fun in PvE is to gain levels and that if there are no more levels to gain, there's nothing else to do. With the level cap being so low and easy to reach, people who begin playing the game at radically different times don't have to worry about not being able to play with each other for a long time because of level differences and the focus of adventures can be on the actual adventures rather than filling up an experience bar.

gkanks · Feb 26, 2005, 03:28 PM // 15:28

If that turns out to be true and there is new, challenging and fun content to pursue at level 20 then I agree with you. I have enjoyed the beta so much that I want there to be a reason other then PvP and GvG to play once we reach level 20.

massi1981 · Feb 26, 2005, 03:43 PM // 15:43

someone can tell me what game is EQ ????
what is the site of this game???
i have heard this name a lot of time..... 45 dollars for every month???? ouch!!!

gkanks · Feb 26, 2005, 03:48 PM // 15:48

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Originally Posted by massi1981

someone can tell me what game is EQ ????
what is the site of this game???
i have heard this name a lot of time..... 45 dollars for every month???? ouch!!!

EQ = EverQuest

The cost was $45 because I needed three accounts to play with my daughter and niece at the same time and the cost is about $15 an account.

JP

IceD'Bear · Feb 26, 2005, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by gkanks

If that turns out to be true and there is new, challenging and fun content to pursue at level 20 then I agree with you. I have enjoyed the beta so much that I want there to be a reason other then PvP and GvG to play once we reach level 20.

Let me just say this - the realy fun and challengin PvE starts at lvl 20

Lunarhound · Feb 26, 2005, 04:43 PM // 16:43

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Originally Posted by gkanks

If that turns out to be true and there is new, challenging and fun content to pursue at level 20 then I agree with you. I have enjoyed the beta so much that I want there to be a reason other then PvP and GvG to play once we reach level 20.

Believe me, we're on the same page here. I plan on participating in PvP, but it's not the end-all of the game for me. I'm a roleplayer, first and foremost, and plan to follow the story and do a lot of in-character adventuring with my friends. If I thought the PvE was going to be weak, I wouldn't be playing.

March Hare · Feb 26, 2005, 08:48 PM // 20:48

I'm with Lonewolf, I want to see new exiting areas, moster's etc. Don't get me wrong I enjoy piting my skill against outhers and is a fun distraction, but you can do that with any old PvP console game, you have to have more to look forward to.

Loviatar · Feb 26, 2005, 09:03 PM // 21:03

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Originally Posted by IceD'Bear

Let me just say this - the realy fun and challengin PvE starts at lvl 20

the above says it all

i am a strictly a adventure explore have fun doing it person and pvp has never been my taste

if you redo the mission you were killed on there is no penality and if you do something else the penalty is mild and short lived

Feb 26, 2005, 03:03 PM // 15:03	#1
gkanks Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Feb 2005	Questions after this beta weekend I play MMOs with my daughter and my niece so Guildwars is very attractive from a cost perspective (we just gave up EQ because it???s no longer worth $45 a month). So for the most part I???m focused on the PvE content. My big concern is that with a level cap of 20 and the ability to get to level 5 in half a day in the new newbie area the game will have limited long term appeal. I know that the design team would really like to see more player focus on the PvP and the GvG but most MMOs have shown the PvE content and having lots to achieve is what players are interested in. I guess my question is; is this a legitimate concern? Second question; We played only in the new newbie area this weekend and the game no longer penalized us dying but reset us instead, is this behavior just in this zone? I really liked the old system of having a negative for each time that you die and rez, it was not a drastic punishment but it made you really work to keep the party alive. Plus it made some areas a real challenge to complete and didn???t reduce the fun factor. JP

Feb 26, 2005, 03:19 PM // 15:19	#2
Lunarhound Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005	A lot of people who want to focus on PvE have expressed concern over the low level cap and the speed at which it's possible to gain levels, but I really don't think there's any need to be alarmed. The focus of the PvE in Guild Wars is not supposed to be in constantly "grinding" for levels. The focus is in completing new missions (which will constantly be added, in the free updates as well as future chapters), playing through the main storyline and continuing to improve your character by gaining new skills. Even once you've reached level 20, you'll still be able to continue ganing experience, which will earn you skill points, which you can use to buy new skills of which there will be hundreds, with more being added all the time. I think it's really unfortunate that so many people seem to think that the only possible way to continue having fun in PvE is to gain levels and that if there are no more levels to gain, there's nothing else to do. With the level cap being so low and easy to reach, people who begin playing the game at radically different times don't have to worry about not being able to play with each other for a long time because of level differences and the focus of adventures can be on the actual adventures rather than filling up an experience bar.

Feb 26, 2005, 03:28 PM // 15:28	#3
gkanks Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Feb 2005	If that turns out to be true and there is new, challenging and fun content to pursue at level 20 then I agree with you. I have enjoyed the beta so much that I want there to be a reason other then PvP and GvG to play once we reach level 20.

Feb 26, 2005, 03:43 PM // 15:43	#4
massi1981 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2005	someone can tell me what game is EQ ???? what is the site of this game??? i have heard this name a lot of time..... 45 dollars for every month???? ouch!!!

Feb 26, 2005, 08:48 PM // 20:48	#8
March Hare Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wonderland Guild: Knights of Ascalon Profession: W/Me	I'm with Lonewolf, I want to see new exiting areas, moster's etc. Don't get me wrong I enjoy piting my skill against outhers and is a fun distraction, but you can do that with any old PvP console game, you have to have more to look forward to.